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Socrates on Aristophanes' comedy

set in 399 BCE, Athens. As Plato tells it.

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set in 399 BCEAthens

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Answering Aristophanes, Aristophanes’ Socrates, in the Clouds, 423 BCEI am walking in the air, and speculating about the sun.

How we know they are linked: Socrates names Aristophanes' comedy and its Socrates who claims to be treading on air.

In plain words, ours

You've all seen the Socrates in Aristophanes' comedy, floating around claiming to walk on air. I know nothing about any of that.

For you yourselves saw these things in Aristophanes’ comedy, a Socrates being carried about there, proclaiming that he was treading on air and uttering a vast deal of other nonsense, about which I know nothing, either much or little.

Plato, Apology 19cTranslated by Harold North Fowler (1914)Read the full passage (Plato, Apology 19c, opens scaife.perseus.org)

What was going on, our summary

As Plato tells it, Socrates is on trial in Athens in 399 BCE, facing a death penalty. He is answering old rumors about him: that he investigated things under the earth and in the sky, and taught people to make the weaker argument win.

Checked claim by claim against: Socrates is tried, condemned and put to death, the passage around the quote.

Why it matters

Aristophanes' comedy indicates that Athenians linked Socrates with the Sophists, and many blamed the teachings of both for making the young disrespectful of their society.

Based on Wikipedia: Trial of Socrates

Despite Socrates denying he had any relation with the Sophists, the playwright indicates that Athenians associated the philosophic teachings of Socrates with Sophism.

Many Athenians blamed the teachings of the Sophists and of Socrates for instilling the younger generation with a morally nihilistic, disrespectful attitude towards their society.

Wikipedia, Trial of Socrates (opens en.wikipedia.org), as of 2026-10-01. Text CC BY-SA 4.0. Our line is checked against these sentences only.

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Now I wish that this might turn out so, if it is better for you and for me, and that I might succeed with my defence; but I think it is difficult, and I am not at all deceived about its nature. But nevertheless, let this be as is pleasing to God, the law must be obeyed and I must make a defence.Now let us take up from the beginning the question, what the accusation is from which the false prejudice against me has arisen, in which Meletus trusted when he brought this suit against me. What did those who aroused the prejudice say to arouse it? I must, as it were, read their sworn statement as if they were plaintiffs: Socrates is a criminal and a busybody, investigating the things beneath the earth and in the heavens and making the weaker argument stronger and teaching others these same things. Something of that sort it is.

The quote: For you yourselves saw these things in Aristophanes’ comedy, a Socrates being carried about there, proclaiming that he was treading on air and uttering a vast deal of other nonsense, about which I know nothing, either much or little.

And I say this, not to cast dishonor upon such knowledge, if anyone is wise about such matters (may I never have to defend myself against Meletus on so great a charge as that!),—but I, men of Athens, have nothing to do with these things. And I offer as witnesses most of yourselves, and I ask you to inform one another and to tell, all those of you who ever heard me conversing—and there are many such among you—now tell, if anyone ever heard me talking much or little about such matters.

Plato, Apology 19a–dTranslated by Harold North Fowler (1914)Read the full passage (opens scaife.perseus.org)

When, and whose words

Date
set in 399 BCE. Spoken at the trial of Socrates in 399 BCE; Plato wrote the Apology some years later.
Whose words
As Plato tells it.
How this post was checked
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