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Socrates answers Meletus at his trial

set in 399 BCE, Athens. As Plato tells it.

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set in 399 BCEAthens

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In plain words, ours

He says I corrupt the young. I say he's the wrongdoer: he drags people to court over things he never cared about.

He says I am a wrongdoer because I corrupt the youth. But I, men of Athens, say Meletus is a wrongdoer, because he jokes in earnest, lightly involving people in a lawsuit, pretending to be zealous and concerned about things or which he never cared at all.

Plato, Apology 24cTranslated by Harold North Fowler (1914)Read the full passage (Plato, Apology 24c, opens scaife.perseus.org)

What was going on, our summary

As Plato tells it, Socrates is defending himself at his trial in Athens. Having answered his older accusers, he now turns to the sworn charge brought by Meletus and questions him in front of the jury.

Checked claim by claim against: Socrates is tried, condemned and put to death, the passage around the quote.

Why it matters

Aristotle believed the dialogue, and especially this scene where Socrates questions Meletus, was a good use of interrogation.

Based on Wikipedia: Apology (Plato)

Aristotle believed the dialogue, particularly the scene where Socrates questions Meletus, represented a good use of interrogation.

Wikipedia, Apology (Plato) (opens en.wikipedia.org), as of 2026-09-09. Text CC BY-SA 4.0. Our line is checked against these sentences only.

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Just before and after

The text around the quote, word for word from the same translation.

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And yet I know pretty well that I am making myself hated by just that conduct; which is also a proof that I am speaking the truth and that this is the prejudice against me and these are its causes. And whether you investigate this now or hereafter, you will find that it is so.Now so far as the accusations are concerned which my first accusers made against me, this is a sufficient defence before you; but against Meletus, the good and patriotic, as he says, and the later ones, I will try to defend myself next. So once more, as if these were another set of accusers, let us take up in turn their sworn statement. It is about as follows: it states that Socrates is a wrongdoer because he corrupts the youth and does not believe in the gods the state believes in, but in other new spiritual beings.Such is the accusation. But let us examine each point of this accusation.

The quote: He says I am a wrongdoer because I corrupt the youth. But I, men of Athens, say Meletus is a wrongdoer, because he jokes in earnest, lightly involving people in a lawsuit, pretending to be zealous and concerned about things or which he never cared at all.

And that this is so I will try to make plain to you also.Come here, Meletus, tell me: don’t you consider it of great importance that the youth be as good as possible? I do. Come now, tell these gentlemen who makes them better? For it is evident that you know, since you care about it. For you have found the one who corrupts them, as you say, and you bring me before these gentlemen and accuse me; and now, come, tell who makes them better and inform them who he is. Do you see, Meletus, that you are silent and cannot tell?

Plato, Apology 24a–dTranslated by Harold North Fowler (1914)Read the full passage (opens scaife.perseus.org)

When, and whose words

Date
set in 399 BCE. Spoken at the trial of Socrates in 399 BCE; Plato wrote the Apology some years later.
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As Plato tells it.
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