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Plato's Seventh Letter on philosophers ruling

c. 353 BCE, Athens. Seventh Letter; authorship disputed.

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c. 353 BCEAthens

about 2,378 years ago

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Plato

, AthensSeventh Letter; authorship disputed

In plain words, ours

People's troubles won't end until true philosophers take power, or until, by some gift of the gods, the people in power truly become philosophers.

Wherefore the classes of mankind (I said) will have no cessation from evils until either the class of those who are right and true philosophers attains political supremacy, or else the class of those who hold power in the States becomes, by some dispensation of Heaven, really philosophic.

Plato, Letters 7.326a–bTranslated by R. G. Bury (1929)Read the full passage (Plato, Letters 7.326a–b, opens scaife.perseus.org)

What was going on, our summary

In the same disputed letter, the writer says he once longed for a public career but grew dizzy watching things shift in every direction, and came to see every state as badly governed. He says he held this view when he first arrived in Italy and Sicily.

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Consequently, although at first I was filled with an ardent desire to engage in public affairs, when I considered all this and saw how things were shifting about anyhow in all directions, I finally became dizzy; and although I continued to consider by what means some betterment could be brought about not only in these matters but also in the government as a whole, yet as regards political action I kept constantly waiting for an opportune moment; until, finally, looking at all the States which now exist, I perceived that one and all they are badly governed; for the state of their laws is such as to be almost incurable without some marvellous overhauling and good-luck to boot. So in my praise of the right philosophy I was compelled to declare that by it one is enabled to discern all forms of justice both political and individual.

The quote: Wherefore the classes of mankind (I said) will have no cessation from evils until either the class of those who are right and true philosophers attains political supremacy, or else the class of those who hold power in the States becomes, by some dispensation of Heaven, really philosophic.

This was the view I held when I came to Italy and Sicily, at the time of my first arrival. And when I came I was in no wise pleased at all with the blissful life, as it is there termed, replete as it is with Italian and Syracusan banquetings ; for thus one’s existence is spent in gorging food twice a day and never sleeping alone at night, and all the practices which accompany this mode of living.

Plato, Letters 7.325d–326cTranslated by R. G. Bury (1929)Read the full passage (opens scaife.perseus.org)

When, and whose words

Date
c. 353 BCE. The Seventh Letter is conventionally dated c. 353 BCE, after Dion's death (354 BCE); it says this was his view before his first trip to Sicily.
Whose words
Seventh Letter; authorship disputed. Who was Plato?
How this post was checked
  • The plain-words line was read against the quote alone by a second, independent pass, which found it adds no claim the quote does not make (2026-10-03).
  • Each claim in the summary was checked by an independent pass against only the material it cites.
  • The quote itself is checked by the build: word for word, once, at the cited section of the stored translation.

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