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Orestes on judging a man's worth

c. 420–413 BCE, Athens (Theatre of Dionysus). Orestes speaking, in Euripides’ play.

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c. 420–413 BCEAthens (Theatre of Dionysus)

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, Athens (Theatre of Dionysus)Orestes speaking, in Euripides’ play

In plain words, ours

You cannot measure a person’s worth exactly. I have seen worthless sons of great fathers, good children of bad parents, poor souls in the rich and great souls in the poor.

Ah! There is no exact way to test a man’s worth; for human nature has confusion in it. For instance, I have seen before now the son of a noble father worth nothing, and good children from evil parents; famine in a rich man’s spirit, and a mighty soul in a poor man’s body.

Euripides, Electra lines 367–370Translated by E. P. Coleridge (1891)Read the full passage (Euripides, Electra lines 367–370, opens scaife.perseus.org)

What was going on, our summary

In Euripides' play Electra, Orestes has come to the house of the poor peasant who is called Electra's husband. The peasant has just welcomed him in, saying that even if he is poor his manners are not.

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Peasant: Surely then he remembers something of your father’s wrongs and your own?

Electra: These are things to hope for; a man in exile is powerless.

Peasant: What message from Orestes have they come to declare?

Electra: He sent them as spies of my wrongs.

Peasant: Then they see a part of it, and perhaps you are telling them the rest.

Electra: They know; they have all these things in abundance.

Peasant: Then shouldn’t you have opened the doors to them long before? Go into the house; for in return for your good tidings, you shall find as much hospitality as my house holds in store. Servants, take their baggage within the house. Do not contradict me, since you are friends coming from a friend; for, even if I am poor, I will not display manners that are ill-bred.

Orestes: By the gods! Is this the man who makes a fraud of your marriage, because he does not want to shame Orestes?

Electra: This is the one who is called my husband, unhappy as I am.

The quote: Orestes: Ah! There is no exact way to test a man’s worth; for human nature has confusion in it. For instance, I have seen before now the son of a noble father worth nothing, and good children from evil parents; famine in a rich man’s spirit, and a mighty soul in a poor man’s body.

Orestes: How then does one rightly distinguish and judge these things? By wealth? A sorry test to use. Or by those who have nothing? But poverty has a disease, it teaches a man to be wicked in his need. But shall I turn to warfare? Who, facing the enemy’s spear, could be a witness as to who is brave? It is best to leave these matters alone, at random. For this man, neither important in Argos, nor puffed up by the good reputation of his family, but one of the many, has been found to be the best.

Euripides, Electra lines 351–380Translated by E. P. Coleridge (1891)Read the full passage (opens scaife.perseus.org)

When, and whose words

Date
c. 420–413 BCE. The first staging of Euripides’ Electra is not recorded; estimates on style and allusions fall between about 420 and 413 BCE.
Whose words
Orestes speaking, in Euripides’ play.
How this post was checked
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