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Diogenes begs from a statue

by 323 BCE. As Diogenes Laertius tells it, centuries later.

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by 323 BCEAthens and the Greek world

about 2,348 years ago

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Diogenes

As Diogenes Laertius tells it, centuries later

In plain words, ours

He asked a statue for money. Why? To get practice at being turned down.

He once begged alms of a statue, and, when asked why he did so, replied, To get practice in being refused.

Diogenes Laertius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers 6.49Translated by R. D. Hicks (1925)Read the full passage (Diogenes Laertius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers 6.49, opens scaife.perseus.org)

What was going on, our summary

Diogenes Laertius, writing centuries later, collects one-line replies by Diogenes the Cynic. He says Diogenes at first begged for alms because he was poor.

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A very superstitious person addressed him thus, With one blow I will break your head. And I, said Diogenes, by a sneeze from the left will make you tremble. Hegesias having asked him to lend him one of his writings, he said, You are a simpleton, Hegesias; you do not choose painted figs, but real ones; and yet you pass over the true training and would apply yourself to written rules. When some one reproached him with his exile, his reply was, Nay, it was through that, you miserable fellow, that I came to be a philosopher. Again, when some one reminded him that the people of Sinope had sentenced him to exile, And I them, said he, to home-staying. Once he saw an Olympic victor tending sheep and thus accosted him: Too quickly, my good friend, have you left Olympia for Nemea. Being asked why athletes are so stupid, his answer was, Because they are built up of pork and beef.

The quote: He once begged alms of a statue, and, when asked why he did so, replied, To get practice in being refused.

In asking alms —as he did at first by reason of his poverty— he used this form: If you have already given to anyone else, give to me also; if not, begin with me. On being asked by a tyrant what bronze is best for a statue, he replied, That of which Harmodius and Aristogiton were moulded. Asked how Dionysius treated his friends, Like purses, he replied; so long as they are full, he hangs them up, and, when they are empty, he throws them away. Some one lately wed had set up on his door the notice: The son of Zeus, victorious Heracles, Dwells here; let nothing evil enter in.

Diogenes Laertius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers 6.48–50Translated by R. D. Hicks (1925)Read the full passage (opens scaife.perseus.org)

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by 323 BCE. Undated; before Diogenes' death (323 BCE, as commonly given). Diogenes Laertius wrote around the 3rd century CE.
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As Diogenes Laertius tells it, centuries later.
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