hstry

Epictetus on singing hymns to God

c. 108 CE, Nicopolis. As Arrian recorded it.

Where and when

c. 108 CENicopolis

about 1,918 years ago

Explore
Epictetus, c. 50 – c. 135 CE3000 BCE2900 BCE2800 BCE2700 BCE2600 BCE2500 BCE2400 BCE2300 BCE2200 BCE2100 BCE2000 BCE1900 BCE1800 BCE1700 BCE1600 BCE1500 BCE1400 BCE1300 BCE1200 BCE1100 BCE1000 BCE900 BCE800 BCE700 BCE600 BCE500 BCE400 BCE300 BCE200 BCE100 BCE1 CE100 CE200 CE300 CE400 CE500 CE600 CE700 CE800 CE900 CE1000 CE1100 CE1200 CE1300 CE1400 CE1500 CE1600 CE1700 CE1800 CE1900 CE2000 CEGreat Pyramid of Giza built, c. 2600 BCERome founded (traditional date), 753 BCELast western Roman emperor deposed, 476 CEGutenberg's printing press, c. 1440 CEColumbus reaches the Americas, 1492 CEFirst people on the Moon, 1969 CEToday, 2026

Swipe the line. Bars: entries. Dots: events.

Epictetus

, NicopolisAs Arrian recorded it

In plain words, ours

What else can a lame old man do but sing to God? If I were a nightingale, I would sing like one. But I am a thinking being, so praising God is my job.

For what else can I do, a lame old man, than sing hymns to God? If then I was a nightingale, I would do the part of a nightingale. if I were a swan, I would do like a swan. But now I am a rational creature, and I ought to praise God: this is my work

Epictetus, Discourses 1.16Translated by George Long (1877)Read the full passage (Epictetus, Discourses 1.16, opens scaife.perseus.org)

What was going on, our summary

Epictetus is speaking at Nicopolis, and Arrian recorded his words. He has been telling his listeners that people should praise God for hands, food, breath and the power to understand.

Checked claim by claim against: the passage around the quote.

Related moments

In time order, with this one in its place. Each says why it is here.

  1. c. 360–348 BCEabout 461 years earlier The Athenian Stranger on puppets of the gods Also about the gods
  2. set in 67 CEabout 41 years earlier Josephus on giving himself up to the Romans Also about the gods
  3. c. 108 CEThis momentEpictetus on singing hymns to God
  4. c. 108 CEAbout the same year Epictetus on chains and the will More from Epictetus
  5. c. 108 CEAbout the same year Epictetus on facing death without lament More from Epictetus
  6. c. 108 CEAbout the same year Epictetus on Socrates and his accusers More from Epictetus

Just before and after

The text around the quote, word for word from the same translation.

Show the passageHide the passage

And what words are sufficient to praise them and set them forth according to their worth? For if we had understanding, ought we to do any thing else both jointly and severally than to sing hymns and bless the deity, and to tell of his benefits? Ought we not when we are digging and ploughing and eating to sing this hymn to God? Great is God, who has given us such implements with which we shall cultivate the earth: great is God who has given us hands, the power of swallowing, a stomach, imperceptible growth, and the power of breathing while we sleep. This is what we ought to sing on every occasion, and to sing the greatest and most divine hymn for giving us the faculty of comprehending these things and using a proper way. Well then, since most of you have become blind, ought there not to be some man to fill this office, and on behalf of all to sing the hymn to God?

The quote: For what else can I do, a lame old man, than sing hymns to God? If then I was a nightingale, I would do the part of a nightingale. if I were a swan, I would do like a swan. But now I am a rational creature, and I ought to praise God: this is my work

; I do it, nor will I desert this post, so long as I am allowed to keep it; and I exhort you to join in this same song. SINCE reason is the faculty which analyses and perfects the rest, and it ought itself not to be unanalysed, by what should it be analysed? for it is plain that this should be done either by itself or by another thing. Either then this other thing also is reason, or something else superior to reason; which is impossible. But if it is reason, again who shall analyse that reason? For if that reason does this for itself, our reason also can do it.

Epictetus, Discourses 1.16–17Translated by George Long (1877)Read the full passage (opens scaife.perseus.org)

When, and whose words

Date
c. 108 CE. Epictetus’ talks at his school in Nicopolis, as his student Arrian took them down; Arrian’s notes are usually dated to about 108 CE.
Whose words
As Arrian recorded it.
How this post was checked
  • The plain-words line was read against the quote alone by a second, independent pass, which found it adds no claim the quote does not make (2026-10-03).
  • Each claim in the summary was checked by an independent pass against only the material it cites.
  • The quote itself is checked by the build: word for word, once, at the cited section of the stored translation.

See it among its momentsMore from EpictetusSee it in the feed